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John Chapman's avatar

Thanks. Your musing made me feel less lonely....nice to know that other people are thinking too....

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George Immanuel's avatar

Professor, what you said about Magritte’s pipe struck me hard. The painted pipe is not a real pipe, but a representation. That immediately reminded me of something I’ve been wrestling with: whether concepts like “pipe” are only brain-born human constructs, or whether they exist as deeper patterns of necessity in the universe.

Tis is how I see it: the "concept" of a pipe—as a resource transmitter—will outlive the human species. It may already have existed before humans, as a structural necessity of flows: rivers carving channels, roots carrying sap, stars funneling plasma. The concept is more fundamental than the material instance.

Our "means" of doing things change, but the "concepts" guiding them seem to persist:

1. Communication survives all its vessels. Whether through vocal cords, jungle howls, pigeon legs, letters, telegraphs, smartphones, synthesizers, DNA, C++ codes or even atomic patterns—the "concept" of information transfer outlasts every medium.

2. Energy extraction: adapts its clothing. From chewing plants to eating meat, to burning coal, to splitting atoms, to drawing from pulsars or black holes, the "concept" of pulling usable power from the environment never dies, only retools.

3. Storage: morphs endlessly. From skin bladders and clay pots to lakes, dams, planets with thick atmospheres, or black holes—the idea of "holding a resource" survives each container.

4. Killing perils: reinvents itself. From stones, knives, and rumors, to vaccines, debugging corrupted code, or even cosmic-scale weapons—the "concept" of neutralizing threats always finds new instruments.

So yes, the material dies, but the concept outsurvives.

This also ties into the Lindy effect. If a concept has endured for 20 years, odds are it’ll last at least 10 more. If it’s lasted 2,000 years—like Bible, Pythagoras’ theorem, Euclidean distance, Zeno's paradox extending to limits in calculus —it’ll probably last 2,000 more. If it’s 10,000 years old—like agriculture, family structures, or monogamy—it likely has 10,000 more ahead of it. Survival of abstractions seems proportional to their historical weight.

So maybe Magritte was right in a narower sense: the image of a pipe isn’t a pipe. But there’s a bigger truth—that the concept of “pipe” is more real than any pipe, because it survives pipes. And it will continue to, with or without us.

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